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Post by gumpy on Jul 17, 2015 0:58:11 GMT 3
Terror and Infection update: 3 Terror - This has not been a good night for Russia
Funding update: From my reading you guys 9 extra in the bank from last turn due to military confusion
Agent Update: Fierce battle in the Launch Silo as a squad of enemy agents attacked. They're all professionals, your agent could identify they were from four different countries. Even though your special forces were drawn back to the capital, the shear number of adversaries against you managed to knock out your nuclear missile launch system. It will cost $15 Million to get back.
Military Update: Ukrainian troops hit the Russian garrison, but are easily rebuffed. It's clear that these attackers were newly armed - The original invasion did not meet this much resistance.
Diplomacy Update: No attempts at diplomacy were made
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Post by bremen on Jul 17, 2015 1:59:03 GMT 3
Ok. Things are still dicey, but the sky is no longer falling.
Did we get some science done? It's unclear to me what exactly happened, but if we didn't do any science we should have way more than $9 extra by my count. I spent $8 on military IIRC.
In the discussion where we arranged the assassination, Gumpy said we can switch roles around for now to fill the President slot. I could take it, but I assume that might leave Pluto in military command. Maybe? If he's in the hospital, it's possible I could still command units in the thread like he did before I filled in for military.
I'm hoping to hold on to Ukraine and Romania, and have some excuses in mind to do so. I'll probably also equip some units with air filters and start guarding borders; I may use our conscription militia for this, since they're not much good in a fight. So I don't think we're out of the game yet. But we'll need to get organizes and moving if we want to emerge from this successfully.
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Post by jaykaos on Jul 17, 2015 2:10:39 GMT 3
If we have 9$ to spare I can do some science- gonna put those orders in now, since science hasn't been resolved yet. I can only do one research so our surplus will be down to $4.
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Post by bremen on Jul 17, 2015 2:12:30 GMT 3
Take as much as you need; I'll make sure you get it.
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Post by bremen on Jul 17, 2015 4:02:23 GMT 3
For now I'm just watching the UN voting. I'm pretty sure any response in the tune of trying to claim we're different now would be met with immediate demands to get out of the Ukraine and Romania, a discussion which I'd prefer be quietly forgotten about. Hopefully there's enough people convinced by the regime change to keep it from passing. Munkus, if you feel like it's doable you might contact Argentina and offer to vote in their favor on the Falklands resolution in the future if they vote against sanctions. Be polite and carefully worded so it doesn't sound insultingly like a bribe. If they say no, you might contact the UK and offer the same deal
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Post by jaykaos on Jul 17, 2015 4:22:18 GMT 3
Yeah, for now we probably just want to stay quiet, resolution or no, and wait for someone else to piss the world off. I'll keep trying to get people to work with me on science, we're pretty far behind Egypt on the disease track - I dunno how much we can spare on research.
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Post by bremen on Jul 17, 2015 4:41:21 GMT 3
Let's talk other plans.
We need to mend fences. Munkus, this will mostly be up to you; make friends where you can. The map shows Finland/Norway as still neutral; if that's right, I'd suggest we send a diplomatic mission to try to ally them.
How are we doing military? Pluto made a post in the thread that sounded like he was doing nothing. I'll probably zero the military budget, since we shouldn't need to move anything and I don't expect anyone to attack us until they at least see if we pull out of Ukraine and Romania, so that gives us money for diplomacy and science. I might use our conscription militia to start fortifying some borders in case the disease gets close, since I think they'd come with air filters.
Oh wait, I think only infantry can fortify borders. Well, I'll figure something out.
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Post by jaykaos on Jul 17, 2015 4:46:55 GMT 3
I think we're okay on disease on our borders for now, if it gets any closer we can get the anti-viral drugs. I'm gonna get First Signs next turn, which may help unlock more tech, and I'm trying to work towards Detailed Scans as well.
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Post by bremen on Jul 17, 2015 8:03:32 GMT 3
As I didn't notice until recently, and just got revealed by the new map, our allies now have a border with an infected nation.
As mentioned in the orders thread, I want to use that to implement safeguards; closed borders, boiled water, and well cooked meat being the primary ones. Are there any bats in Kazakhstan?
Anyways, I have a suspicion that these safeguards will raise our terror level some. This is bad, but one of the effects of the Russian sanctions measure failing is a reduction in Russian terror. Shall we try to play the sympathy card?
I'm thinking have Munkus point out that we now need to take actions to protect ourselves from the disease that may cause panic, but panic is already high due to strikes by foreign agents and the proposed sanctions, however understandable they were. Don't say we wont close the border if it passes; that looks like we're taking hostages. But point out that civilian panic might now be a much more severe and irreversible punishment than they were intending.
Maybe, anyways. What does everyone think?
Also it looks like Brazil (Brazil?) took Finland, so don't bother with that. Looks like we're tapped out on nearby allies for now. And in case the protections fail, we might want to move some infantry in to Eastern Russia to secure the border with Kazakhstan.
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Post by bremen on Jul 17, 2015 8:59:28 GMT 3
Also it looks like Nigeria took Canada. That's hilarious.
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Post by timspork on Jul 17, 2015 15:28:10 GMT 3
We could equip some less threatening troops and send them to our allied country bordering the infection and help the ally close the border. We could also try to recreate that Euraisa Union alliance that was floated briefly. It seemed to have some good support. I get the impression that people will ignore Ukraine if we jump back into being helpful. Bremen, it looks like it is okay for you to post now so you and Munkus could start building bridges all nice like?
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Post by timspork on Jul 17, 2015 15:46:25 GMT 3
One last thing, our objectives are to take out the missiles in Poland and have a bigger military. As we invaded Poland and withdrew, can the missiles in Poland be rebuilt and are we complete on that objective unless someone spends money to rebuild them? In that case can we just pull everything back to our borders and build up our military?
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Post by timspork on Jul 17, 2015 16:40:50 GMT 3
Message from China,
China is unwilling to let our neighbors to the north suffer, even if the rest of the world seems content to turn a blind eye. Do we want to prepare some sort of preemptive aid package?
I told them that I was more concerned about the infected countries bordering china and asked if there was anything we could do to assist.
Also from Argentina,
I've cc'd my military advisor, who will have to coordinate details with you if appropriate, but suffice it to say that if you guys want to commit your forces to peaceful initiatives we'll help out.
In response I agreed and mentioned wanting to help out Kazakhstan with their border due to infected south.
Is there any relief work or peaceful infrastructure work we can order our military to do?
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Post by timspork on Jul 17, 2015 17:02:20 GMT 3
Update!
From China,
We are confident in our ability to prevent the disease from entering our country through normal means (trade and travel). I hope to release more information on how soon.
One of the ideas being bandied around by third parties is a draw down of the Russian military. If this is a way to avoid economic sanctions, would you be amenable to it? I need to confer with my cabinet, but perhaps we can come to some sort of Civ5-style Defensive Pact in order to keep both our nations safe against external aggression.
I replied that I was willing to consider it but would need to talk with the rest of the government.
Maybe we can get rid of some of our navy. It seems kinda useless. Plus is would save on upkeep costs.
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Post by timspork on Jul 17, 2015 17:10:06 GMT 3
One thought. Our nukes are broken. It would cost a ton to fix them. That also eliminates the need for a missile shield in Poland since we have no nukes. If we keep reminding people we have no nukes anymore, maybe they won't repair the shield and we can keep that objective complete.
If that is the case then we could pull out of the Ukraine as a sign of good will and maybe trim the navy a bit. The money we save from that upkeep could be spent building militia.
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